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I think he said Monk Town as well
He did. Check the audio. He said Moncton (several times) Monk Town and then Muck Town in his little ramble.
Bono being charming.
I think he said Monk Town as well
Vic, go eat a bag of dicks, asshole
There's a group of French people who go to tons of shows (always rail, always drape a flag) who've *hit* a (girl) friend of mine for being in their spot. Their group is both male/female.
We did have a blast! And no, most aren't from Boston, though that's where we all really met each other.
Somehow, I don't think we used all the 62 glowsticks we had with us...
Just to clear this up. I've met Vik a few times and he's really a great guy from what i've seen. I plan to meet up with him next time I'm back in London if I can. He's very gracious in person he really is. I know this incident is something he must not be too proud of but again, I've been without proper sleep for 5 days, like he did running the GA line and like someone else said 'your mind does wander "
I will never excuse hitting a woman. I highly doubt he hit her, just moved here away from where she was and again, he and the rest of the guys followed the security requirements. This girl did not in her excitement to get to the front. Simple as. She got called on it and got pissed.
So it's GA rage then hmmmm. Maybe we can get T-shirts done for next tour…
"Stay away from the GArage"
Classy Post. Speaks volumes about you !!!!
Popmartijn said:I was the one wearing the orange Boston Red Sox cap.
It speaks volumes about a certain (and hopefully tiny) class of U2 fan when it seems that among all of this, the only part of it that is recognised as 'wrong' is the part where it turns violent, and that the rest of the many layers of madness involved are all apparently perfectly legit as justification for it.
I mean, to think *that* crossed a line, but not see that everything leading up to it is already beyond... Six days in a GA line running a list? Any belief that you have any right to any spot? Any belief that you have any authority, power or entitlement over any other fan, whether they're hardcore like you, or even just a regular casual punter who can only name half the band and half of U218? And a belief that you have that power or entitlement because you go to dozens of gigs and spend days in line? Or that you think there's anything important about the - in reality, probably spiteful - 'recognition' you get from a band member because you hog said front spots? And all of this leads to "Aww, don't worry Vik, you learned your lesson, U2 fans "
Anyone who thinks or acts like that, and is a part of this class of U2 fan, probably shouldn't be all "See you next tour!", but perhaps, "Think I need to take the next one off."
It speaks volumes about a certain (and hopefully tiny) class of U2 fan when it seems that among all of this, the only part of it that is recognised as 'wrong' is the part where it turns violent, and that the rest of the many layers of madness involved are all apparently perfectly legit as justification for it.
I mean, to think *that* crossed a line, but not see that everything leading up to it is already beyond... Six days in a GA line running a list? Any belief that you have any right to any spot? Any belief that you have any authority, power or entitlement over any other fan, whether they're hardcore like you, or even just a regular casual punter who can only name half the band and half of U218? And a belief that you have that power or entitlement because you go to dozens of gigs and spend days in line? Or that you think there's anything important about the - in reality, probably spiteful - 'recognition' you get from a band member because you hog said front spots? And all of this leads to "Aww, don't worry Vik, you learned your lesson, U2 fans "
Anyone who thinks or acts like that, and is a part of this class of U2 fan, probably shouldn't be all "See you next tour!", but perhaps, "Think I need to take the next one off."
I was the one wearing the orange Boston Red Sox cap.
Red Sox FTW. Also from Boston which garnered some groans from the natives. Then I went showed my picture with the Cup. I'm surprised I made it through the show.
It speaks volumes about a certain (and hopefully tiny) class of U2 fan when it seems that among all of this, the only part of it that is recognised as 'wrong' is the part where it turns violent, and that the rest of the many layers of madness involved are all apparently perfectly legit as justification for it.
I mean, to think *that* crossed a line, but not see that everything leading up to it is already beyond... Six days in a GA line running a list? Any belief that you have any right to any spot? Any belief that you have any authority, power or entitlement over any other fan, whether they're hardcore like you, or even just a regular casual punter who can only name half the band and half of U218? And a belief that you have that power or entitlement because you go to dozens of gigs and spend days in line? Or that you think there's anything important about the - in reality, probably spiteful - 'recognition' you get from a band member because you hog said front spots? And all of this leads to "Aww, don't worry Vik, you learned your lesson, U2 fans "
Anyone who thinks or acts like that, and is a part of this class of U2 fan, probably shouldn't be all "See you next tour!", but perhaps, "Think I need to take the next one off."
Okay, I think I was right behind you.
He actually pushed her with force and was yelling that she was not never in line to security when they tried to intervene. She was ahead of me in line ...by the time 2 guys tried
To intervene the front area already filled up. She was entitled to that spot cause she got there first. No security rules were broken at all.
Vic apologized and has promised to act more humane in the future ...let's just hope others will stop the pushing , shoving , and hitting
It speaks volumes about a certain (and hopefully tiny) class of U2 fan when it seems that among all of this, the only part of it that is recognised as 'wrong' is the part where it turns violent, and that the rest of the many layers of madness involved are all apparently perfectly legit as justification for it.
I mean, to think *that* crossed a line, but not see that everything leading up to it is already beyond... Six days in a GA line running a list? Any belief that you have any right to any spot? Any belief that you have any authority, power or entitlement over any other fan, whether they're hardcore like you, or even just a regular casual punter who can only name half the band and half of U218? And a belief that you have that power or entitlement because you go to dozens of gigs and spend days in line? Or that you think there's anything important about the - in reality, probably spiteful - 'recognition' you get from a band member because you hog said front spots? And all of this leads to "Aww, don't worry Vik, you learned your lesson, U2 fans "
Anyone who thinks or acts like that, and is a part of this class of U2 fan, probably shouldn't be all "See you next tour!", but perhaps, "Think I need to take the next one off."
It speaks volumes about a certain (and hopefully tiny) class of U2 fan when it seems that among all of this, the only part of it that is recognised as 'wrong' is the part where it turns violent, and that the rest of the many layers of madness involved are all apparently perfectly legit as justification for it.
I mean, to think *that* crossed a line, but not see that everything leading up to it is already beyond... Six days in a GA line running a list? Any belief that you have any right to any spot? Any belief that you have any authority, power or entitlement over any other fan, whether they're hardcore like you, or even just a regular casual punter who can only name half the band and half of U218? And a belief that you have that power or entitlement because you go to dozens of gigs and spend days in line? Or that you think there's anything important about the - in reality, probably spiteful - 'recognition' you get from a band member because you hog said front spots? And all of this leads to "Aww, don't worry Vik, you learned your lesson, U2 fans "
Anyone who thinks or acts like that, and is a part of this class of U2 fan, probably shouldn't be all "See you next tour!", but perhaps, "Think I need to take the next one off."
Grabbing a girl by the face and throwing her off the rail?? If you say you saw this I'm shocked!! Nothing justifies that. But it's very hard to make a judgement when you weren't there and emotions are running high.
the girl he tussled with has also made her peace with him.
I definately don't agree with putting your hands on a woman.
However, I do have to say that anyone that tries to slip into a spot that I have waited or have been waiting in longer then themselves does call for words. Right is right and ppl that try and slip in at the last moment have no right to push and bump their way to the front because they are too lazy to make the commitment.
1st paragraph: you're missing the point - even if "all" he did was berate her verbally, he's a freakin douche for believing that just because he was a higher number in line, he had any right to be anywhere other than where he ended up. PERIOD.
2nd paragraph: Really? I didn't see her log on here and state this. All we have is his assertion that this happened. I really question whether her story is the same.
Why does everyone, including Vik, seem to be all right with the statements that sound like "I don't agree with hitting a woman. However/But she/they..... " Like, really??!
She didn't try and 'slip in' anywhere. She got to a spot that Vik, in his crazy self entitled imagination had already mapped out as "his". He wasn't there first, she was.
I'm not missing the point! If you say she's allowed to get away with whatever she feels like rightly or wrongly regardless of what, when where how, become an anarchist!!!! Become literal with me…back at ya!!!!
Grow some intestinal fortitude and grow up!!
Kangaroo court comes to mind when I think of your reactions here!
Are you nuts?
By his own account, she went in on Edge's side and he on Adam's. She got to spot A before he did. When Vik arrived at spot A, Vik believed that she didn't deserve to be there because she had a "higher number" than he, and so physically forced her to move.
Kangaroo court my ass - that's exactly what Vik did to her, not the other way around - and he used the fact that she couldn't defend herself not only physically but in the English language to gain his way over her. There's no way else to try and sugar coat it.
Anyways back to your stupid statement on "class" - I'd sooner share a beer with JT than I would this total jerkoff.
Again - it's actually U2's fault (or Live Nations, I suppose) because they don't have any formal system in place. If you're leaving it up to crazy, desperate superfans, and thus letting it spill out into days before, and lists, and a fan heirarchy, and a system running parallel or even counter to formal stadium plans - then of course this shit is going to happen. If you reign it in to there only being a need to turn up to the stadium on the evening of the gig, and bring in some system whereby everyone has an equal shot (lottery FTW), then you get none of this. Vik taking some girl out over his rail spot isn't the problem. That's just Hitler invading Poland - you need to rewind a bit.