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mikal said:
I will agree with Ax here. NLOTH hasn’t aged well for me at all. Breathe’s verses are just bad. The middle 3 is inexcusable. NLOTH is pretty much the only U2 album that I refuse to listen to all the way through, even though the title track, MOS, and Fez are spectacular.
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Ooh we agree on something!

I was definitely happy to be reacquainted with the likes of NLOTH, Magnificent, Fez, and White As Snow. But oh man that middle section stings, and all the more because of the good stuff going on elsewhere on the album.

Unknown Caller possibly hurts the most because I feel like it's got a good foundation that the band failed to build upon. I can see why I liked it in 2009, and managed to convince myself for a while to ignore the shortcomings. But in the end they sink the song for me, and I wish they didn't.
 
rennowba said:
http://www.nme.com/news/music/viewers-u2-bbc-really-wanted-bono-shut-2178338

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I HATE when “journalists” include random Twitter posts in their articles as if to justify a position(good or bad).

This has nothing to do with if they liked it or hated it, it’s fine either way but I want to read a professional article and not Twitter posts. USAToday does this all the time and I fucking hate it.

Any posts from random people on social media are 100% fucking useless. It’s not a representative sample and they aren’t even verified sources that have seen/listened to the medium. It’s like taking a post from a Marvel fanboy who never watched Wonder Women that says “DC Sucks” and using in the article to say people are hating Wonder Woman. FFS....do some leg work.

I hope Rolling Stone does an article on U2 fans and if they like the new music and go into the B&C forum to take quotes and use that as a blanket for All U2 fans! The title of the article would be “U2 fans wipe ass with new material and their ass complains the album stinks”

If you hate the subject matter....write about it with your own words not Twitter users “peanutbutterballs34” words.


#grumpy
 
Axver said:
Ooh we agree on something!

I was definitely happy to be reacquainted with the likes of NLOTH, Magnificent, Fez, and White As Snow. But oh man that middle section stings, and all the more because of the good stuff going on elsewhere on the album.

Unknown Caller possibly hurts the most because I feel like it's got a good foundation that the band failed to build upon. I can see why I liked it in 2009, and managed to convince myself for a while to ignore the shortcomings. But in the end they sink the song for me, and I wish they didn't.
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Agree about No Line. It has some great moments on it - Magnificent, White as Snow, Fez, MoS, Breathe (to an extent) - but is filled with that horrid midsection that just brings the album down.

They went two steps forward with some experimentation and then two steps back with songs like Boots, Unknown Caller and I'll go crazy.

On SoI and to a greater extent on SoE, U2 have created an album that knows where it's going. They had an overall idea for the album and stuck with it, rather than trying to be all things to all people.
 
Axver said:
Ooh we agree on something!

I was definitely happy to be reacquainted with the likes of NLOTH, Magnificent, Fez, and White As Snow. But oh man that middle section stings, and all the more because of the good stuff going on elsewhere on the album.

Unknown Caller possibly hurts the most because I feel like it's got a good foundation that the band failed to build upon. I can see why I liked it in 2009, and managed to convince myself for a while to ignore the shortcomings. But in the end they sink the song for me, and I wish they didn't.
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I tried to force myself into liking Breathe for a while, but I don't think I've gone back to listen to it again since the 360 tour ended.

The chorus to Unknown Caller is a war crime.
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
I tried to force myself into liking Breathe for a while, but I don't think I've gone back to listen to it again since the 360 tour ended.

The chorus to Unknown Caller is a war crime.
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admittedly, I don't listen to Breathe as much as I did 8 years ago or so, but I still think it's a pretty good song.

the songs I go back to the most on NLOTH are the first three tracks, cedars and white as snow, though.
 
popacrobat said:
admittedly, I don't listen to Breathe as much as I did 8 years ago or so, but I still think it's a pretty good song.

the songs I go back to the most on NLOTH are the first three tracks, cedars and white as snow, though.
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What bugs the shit out if me about Breathe bow is the off key "daaaaayuhuhuhuhs"

Like, who let that out of the studio?

Oh right, the same person who let Boots out of the studio.
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
The chorus to Unknown Caller is a war crime.
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So you don’t belt out “force quit and reboot yourself” when driving around town.

I remember when I first heard that chorus and thought “I must have misheard that”.

To me “a boy” is forgivable, “refujesus” is forgivable(to a lesser extent) but that song is filled with lyrical abominations!

Unknown Caller.....TO THE PIT OF MISERY!
 
I like Unknown Caller...bad lyrics and all. I always have mainly because I just don’t give a fuck about force quit and move to trash. Yeah, it’s not a great line but it’s not terrible and the song builds up well into a cool guitar solo.

Bad lyrics don’t really kill Breathe for me either. NLOTH is not my favorite album, but I like it more than Bomb, ATYCLB, and Pop. Boots is the one I don’t like on NLOTH - other than that it’s just a couple other okay tunes with bad titles (Crazy, SUC).
 
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It is really sad. I LOVE NLOTH (song) and Fez and MOS, and Magnificent is just a top level U2 song. But seriously almost nothing else on that album makes me want to come back for more.
Now that still is a little more than i want to go back and listen to to from Bomb, but it always just seemed that No Line had so much potential and it just got so fucked up.
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
I tried so hard to like No Line On The Horizon. I really did.

But it's a shit stain.
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:) 100% easily in my bottom 2 u2 albums. When it came out I loved it. Haven't listened to it in ages. Quite like breathe, moment of surrender and no line on the horizon. But even them I haven't listened to in ages.
 
rennowba said:
That BBC special was superb. Best u2 tv show ever. If that don't sell records in the uk nothing will

The versions of one, beautiful day,with or without you and stuck in a moment where some of the best I've heard

Lights of home and get out of your own way sounded great live. Love is bigger is my least favourite on the record but this was a great version.

Still can't get my head round why summer of love, little things and red flag day aren't at the vocal point of the albums promotion. Maybe wouldn't of fitted in with a orchestral environment but should still be the main vocal point of the record
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While I agree,I dont think there will be a pick up in album sales here. UK public hate Bono.
 
How could Adam be so much lower than the rest? I imagine he's the type that probably enjoys spending his money, whereas Larry is probably a tight ass and is thinking about his great-great grandkids future.
 
The_acrobat said:
How could Adam be so much lower than the rest? I imagine he's the type that probably enjoys spending his money, whereas Larry is probably a tight ass and is thinking about his great-great grandkids future.
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I think that's a typo.

This was from 2014 richest Bassists:

01. Paul McCartney – $1.2 billion
02. Sting – $300 million
02. Gene Simmons (KISS) – $300 million
04. Roger Waters – $270 million
05. Adam Clayton (U2) – $150 million
06. Flea – $115 million
07. John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin) – $80 million
08. Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath) – $65 million
09. Tony Kanal (No Doubt) – $45 million
10. Krist Novoselic (Nirvana) – $40 million
 
super fly guy said:
While I agree,I dont think there will be a pick up in album sales here. UK public hate Bono.
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There was a big jump in album sales, the deluxe version jumped from the 60's up to number 11 on iTunes, the normal version also came back into the 60s with both the Joshua tree and u218 hitting top 100
 
Was excited to see that Lights of Home was on the setlist for the BBC concert.

And then, the choir that was onstage doing backing vocals for Beautiful Day isn't there for this song, particularly the big refrain at the end. You can even see Bono urging the small audience to sing along. YOU HAD A FUCKING CHOIR TO SING WITH YOU AND DIDN'T USE IT.

For fuck's sake these guys are endlessly frustrating.
 
Wait ... Bono sang the tag at the end of One through that megaphone?

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I downloaded the torrent of the BBC airing, but I think I'll hold out for the longer version that airs next week.

How stupid to have so many different versions airing on various places.
 
womanfish said:
It is really sad. I LOVE NLOTH (song) and Fez and MOS, and Magnificent is just a top level U2 song. But seriously almost nothing else on that album makes me want to come back for more.
Now that still is a little more than i want to go back and listen to to from Bomb, but it always just seemed that No Line had so much potential and it just got so fucked up.
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For me, NLOTH and Magnificent were such a powerful, 1-2 punch of confident, edgy U2! I like MOS, but I think Bono way overdoes it, and the rest is hit and miss.

I like Breathe, but it can't save the album for me. Gosh, I KNOW there had to be a masterpiece of an album in there somewhere, but they lost their nerve.
 
Gzusfrk said:
For me, NLOTH and Magnificent were such a powerful, 1-2 punch of confident, edgy U2! I like MOS, but I think Bono way overdoes it, and the rest is hit and miss.

I like Breathe, but it can't save the album for me. Gosh, I KNOW there had to be a masterpiece of an album in there somewhere, but they lost their nerve.
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I remember finally hearing the whole album the day it came out, after hearing only Boots that whole time. Those first two songs had me thinking "Omg, this is going to be an awesome album!" Then other than 2-3 other songs being okay, the rest did almost nothing for me. :huh: I was stunned.

That being said, Breathe was one of those 2-3 other songs there for me.
 
Gzusfrk said:
For me, NLOTH and Magnificent were such a powerful, 1-2 punch of confident, edgy U2! I like MOS, but I think Bono way overdoes it, and the rest is hit and miss.

I like Breathe, but it can't save the album for me. Gosh, I KNOW there had to be a masterpiece of an album in there somewhere, but they lost their nerve.
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Yeah, as much love as MOS gets, I like it, it's a really good song, but it doesn't come fully together to greatness for me.
Even as much as i love NLOTH (the song), the Heeeeeeeeeyyyyy Heeeeeeyyyyy parts just annoy the hell out of me. It was like a placeholder in the song that they never went back to address...
 
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