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Agreed that all three Portishead studio albums are worth your time.

The retro novelty of the beats does start to wear off, but luckily Beth Gibbons is a strong enough singer to maintain interest.

And I'd also say if you really love Dummy that much, you should consider checking out Massive Attack's first three albums, as well as Tricky's solo debut Maxinquaye. They're all trip-hop classics.
 
I’ve tried listening to Get Out on the radio, but I never make it very far before turning the station.



I think when the rest of the radio is Imagine Dragons, it sounds pretty good. But I went to see Sick of it All and Murphy’s Law the other day and I was reminded how low the pop music I do like ranks vs hardcore.

Also the amount of shit Jimmy G from Murphy’s Law was talking about Fat Mike was hilarious.
 
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I think when the rest of the radio is Imagine Dragons, it sounds pretty good.


I’m lucky to have satellite radio, so it’s pretty easy for me to find something decent to listen to, plus no ads. If I had to listen to regular radio, I would totally agree with you.
 
Way back in the time of the Discman, I had knee surgery and had to stay overnight alone in the hospital. My aunt brought me a copy of Dummy to listen to, so I let it play on repeat all night as my leg straightened and flexed slowly and horribly in a machine. That was a weird night, but I remember the album matched the mood perfectly.

This sounds awful, but at the same time, I love how certain albums really take us right back to certain experiences.

I’ve listened to the Koze record more than anything else this year. It’s so good.

I made it halfway through the Jon Hopkins record last night. And...meh.

It's actually stellar. I love him so much. He's playing a gig in some abandoned car park here in a few months, can't wait, although the last time I saw him his set lacked all the charm and personality of his music.

And agreed on Singularity. Good background music but I'm really bummed by it given how much I fucking adore Immunity, which is an incredible record.

I consider myself a big fan of Kanye's work. I've listened to everything he's put out, and think Twisted Fantasy is an all-time classic.

But I will not listen to this one or anything else he releases because I can't justify it after his behavior the last few months.

But that's just me. Nothing against anyone who has listened or bought Ye.

:up: how do you go about reconciling it with his music you already love?

Agreed that all three Portishead studio albums are worth your time.

The retro novelty of the beats does start to wear off, but luckily Beth Gibbons is a strong enough singer to maintain interest.

And I'd also say if you really love Dummy that much, you should consider checking out Massive Attack's first three albums, as well as Tricky's solo debut Maxinquaye. They're all trip-hop classics.

I only have Third, and that's mostly so that I have Machine Gun. I saw them live once at a beautiful festival with a 19th century mansion and a setting sun as a backdrop, and it was wicked, but only Machine Gun ever really stuck with me. (Edit, I also own Dummy apparently. I really need to listen to em more.)

Hugely agreed on Massive Attack though. Martha, if you haven't heard Mezzanine, I'd start there. Fucking remarkable album that one, one of my all-timers. Both Blue Lines and Protection are great as well (and I also really like Heligoland from a few years ago) but Mezzanine is their magnum opus imo.
 
That could be very good or very bad. Save me the suspense, Dave.
 
7.1 sounds pretty high tbh, like, in order for you to be really into this album, you really have to love Kanye-isms. that's the only way to overcome hearing all of these stupid phrases.
 
I thought the first Natalie Prass album was straight diabetes, but she sounds like Julia Holter gone R&B now and I approve.
 
Yeah that's pretty brutal. But deserved, I'm sure.

Is there anyone who will argue this isn't the least-essential thing he's done?

Yes, one of my best mates, who is currently proclaiming it to be his second best album (and he's been a Kanye fan for a loooooooooooong time). Says the production is perfect.

Inessential is a pretty good way of putting it actually. You got College Dropout for the soul-inflected tracks, TLOP for the first two.

Damn yeah that reads like a 2.0 or something.

Compare and contrast with the Dirty Computer review, which is only 0.6 higher.

I think it's fine to have the score be a consensus, but fuck, at least have the balls to align the score with the writer's review. If not, then assign a different writer. To have that as a 7.1 - and in the fucking preview paragraph write "undoubtedly a career low point" - is a joke. eeeeeeveryone can see through that 7.1. That's one of their senior writers pulling rank and going "we can't give him anything below a 7".
 
It’s probably the least essential whatever that means anymore. Something about it is really satisfying though, but I like that new music especially from Kanye doesn’t have to be such an elaborate thing, as Pablo sits with me less and less well with time.
 
I listened to it. It happened. I have heard songs from it from time to time since and enjoy them. But no, it's not essential listening for anyone, not even Kanye fans.
 
I feel like I'm the only one who really loves the album. It's the first time I've really connected with Kanye as a lyricist since Watch the Throne. I am extremely moved by much of the album's content, even though the execution is a mixed bag.
 
if having a bipolar makes you a superhero, does that mean my mom is a superhero too because she has an anxiety?
 
A lot of superheroes suffer from mental illness tbh:

https://screenrant.com/superheroes-villains-crazy-mental-illnesses-diagnosis/

I wouldn't describe mental illness as a superpower, certainly, but I would argue it's a better and more unique perspective than turning mental illness into sadness porn like most writers do.

Also, there is a song I absolutely love that covers this subject matter quite cleverly:

 
I thought the first Natalie Prass album was straight diabetes, but she sounds like Julia Holter gone R&B now and I approve.

Right? It's a remarkable re-invention. I really like the first album (I do have a sweet tooth), as she has some gorgeous melodies there and her delivery sells it for me, but the new one is just a lot of fun. Favorite songs so far for me are Short Court Style and Sisters (which was even better live).
 
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